SUITE07: Philosophy Of World Class University
This is a compilation of discussion which was warmly debated by two young Scholars, Muhammad Abi Suffian who has a Arts and Business educations and Azman a rising linguist in Arabic and its teaching. The issue arises here when; the University Mara Of Technology Terengganu organizes sports Days, the first event introduced on behalf of a new Director. The SUITE07 is opened to all staffs and students. But what makes this issue important is, the involving in this program is compulsory or not and how it was held technically. This is the friendly and sincerely discussion.
Muhammad Abi
It is compulsory to us?
OR, just relationship activity?
Azman
Yeah... anybody can use the reason of relationship.... but to what extent this workable...we are not in kindergarden..
sport is not nesseserally can built and strength relationship...but more damages are expected..since it only a small variable in our life...
Muhammad Abi
It's up to you as academician (thinker), if you think sport can develop relationship, it can give a positive way,
BUT if you think sport can demage relationship among us, may be you have your own opinion as a USTAZ!!!!!!!!
BUT why our government persuade the campaign "Badan Sihat Otak Cergas",
Azman
We have to look at the matter in various perspectives... to ensure the justice justification.
We do agree that "badan sihat otak cergas" not necessarily comes out from competition or match.
We define here sport in scope of match or competition not sport done freely.
Because the culture of competition to some circumstances lead to damage the message of "Badan sihat otak cergas" as well as nepotism culture.
Human being does not expected to compete in physical manner...to measure their strength...as our prophet s.a.w had asserted.
What sadden all of us is the culture has been tried to be created here is "worshiping sport" [ match ] by use excuse of " to maintain relationship and gain healthy" since there are sports man using drug to win the sport....
Muhammad Abi
Actually what do you want to going to discuss?
I hope you can clarify the objective of discussion.
Basically, you highlighted the UITMT as a sport university previously. AND UiTMT had already launch the sport for relationship activity.
UiTMT did not emphasize the competition, BUT Sport competition as a medium to develop the human relation in UiTM.
I hope you can think positively AND do not interpret based on your feeling but interpret based on your thinking.
Azman
We do not meant to justify the right or wrong particularly.
But the concern rise here is, as mention by you " objective of discussion" not to reveal self- unsatisfaction.
Deeply thinking, the noble university rule has stolen from this culture as seen in some perspectives.
We do not blindly interpret this situation, for the sake of ourselves. But as you said earlier, beside "Badan Sihat Otak Cergas",
we also believe " kepimpinan melalui tauladan" don't you ??!!.
If you said sport - in this campus for relationship- why it took 2 month to finish ??
I go back to what I mentioned before... we are on turning from University [ as understood worldwide ] to sport college.
So, do academician activities can be expected from this culture. Or it was pretty enough teaching and giving notes as academician activities ??.
And after all....lets go to party...
Muhammad Abi
Right now, our government going to centralized all the sports activity in IPTA and IPTS (Utusan Malaysia, 10/3/2007).
So, do the government implement the wrong thing? Sport as support activity among students and lecturer in university.
Actually, what the purpose of Unit Sukan under HEP?
OR, may you thing unit sukan as useless in IPTA?
What do can we relate between sport activity and the development of cognitive thinking, human behavior, and soft skill, etc among academician?
Is it related? OR You think the other way?
If, all of the activity is not related, I thing you should develop your own university.
AND invite all the academician work like you.
I don't think they are agree.
Azman
A good and reactive respond. As we related earlier, we are not going to justify the goodness of sport. As Islam itself encourages sports.
The sport unit existent is deniable. And we conscious there are another units. Sport Unit is not alone. Your statement "sport activity and the development of cognitive thinking, human behavior, and soft skill, etc among academician" is a repetition and interpretation of "Badan Sihat Otak Cergas". We don’t need to discuss it again.
If a small unit can conquer all university activities as well as the objective, doesn’t it is weird ??. The analogy is like a small and tiny snake trying to swallow a big cow.
The idea to create a new university is funny. Since it was our responsibilities to maintain and manage the existed university from misused or self interest. We can not simply brought by the wave and tide, but to actively and clearly defending the truth.
Muhammad Abi
Actually, what do you want going to discuss?
Sometime your statement is not have a core opinion, like a bird can fly anywhere.
O.Klah! If you want to discuss further, I think you can organize the conference which can discuss about this matter.
If you think the sport unit existent is deniable, what are the alternative that you can give to support the purpose of university in society?
So, sport unit can be denied means, all of the thinker (academician, government, etc) in the word are wrong thinking?
ONLY you are correct!!!!!!!!!!
Azman
As mentioned earlier, we are not going to simply say " wrong'" or "right".
And it is our task to find the betterment in our environment and society.
We already have a lot of units, including sport unit which believed can contribute to society.
But the core subject here is why a small unit conquer the activities, such as culture and arts, uniforms etc...??
We can accept the sport as a good activities for staff and students as you noted previously.
But why you don't wonder, how many emails during one months and more...all about this sports...tournament, match and so on.
We are like KEMAS kinder garden, after academic session go to field to play....see. We have about 4 months this semester. And 2 months for this activities...the rest is for classes and test.
Imagine !!! what a weird !!...I don't think all of the thinker (academician, government, etc) direct us to do like this. The matter now goes to the application not the idea.
We are agree in idea of sport as a mechanism to enrich, strengthen...relationships.
But technically...you can see.... and don't say am I only correct....
Muhammad Abi
O.klah if you understand what are the purpose of sport activity in UiTM.
BUT, the problem is, Why did you highlighted UiTM is a sport university, previously?
AND, what we can relate previous statement and the statement right now?
Sometimes, I don't know which one is your opinion?
Did the e-mail (Lotus note) always discuss the sport matters?
As I said before, lotus note can discuss just an ad hoc matters.
BUT if you want to discuss this matters better you conduct the conference.
It is a normally communication in lotus note to discuss ad hoc matters and management?
I don't know how are you discuss the academic matter through lotus note.
I think you have to understand the purpose of tools in communication, which one for ad hoc communication and which one for discussion.
Better you study the communication in human being.
Azman
Humbly to say, we are not going to discuss the matter on communications. It does not have any relation with the core topic.
Your mention " Better you study the communication in human being" is a good advice [ hopely a sincere one ] unless we are out of the topic.
What we try to clearly and sincerely understand is " if only sport will gain the relationship ... If we can count percentage of sport as a mechanicm..it was about 10% to 15 % can contribute..
This dogma will increase... and becomes a faith...what a nonsense...
Your Q "Did the e-mail (Lotus note) always discuss the sport matters?" that was what appeared during this month and before and maybe for the next month..
I can not answer your question [ or no need to ] pertaining the legislation or law of use L-Notes.
Your recommendation to organize such conference becomes funny to me. How you can expect human to use their mind to support this intellectual reflection if they were offered to go training and playing as well as winning tournament??
I don't sure whether intellectual discourse will be supported in this era of sportsmanship’s dream...
Muhammad Abi
So, it is clear that you understand which one is core topic. I hope you will not relate any encore suggestion next time.
My advice, you have to know what are you going to discuss.
Before we highlight something, we must understand;
1. Issue that we want to discuss
2. Issue and current environment
3. Problem in the issue
4. Analytical that we used.
5. Finding that can contribute to the problem in issue.
6. Good suggestion.
BUT THE PROBLEMS ARE;
1. You don't know what are you going to talk (Objective. of discussion)
2. You are not fully recognize the current environment that support the issue.
3. You don't have a concrete opinion.
4. Sometimes your statements are not related with previous statement in discussion.
5. You just agree what are you think, without study the activities that has done before.
6. Actually you are opposite person, not discuss person. Very hard to me talk to person like you.
I want ask to you, Why Faiz and Amri do not like to discuss wit you?
So, honestly to say, you must have a concrete opinion when you want to discuss further with me, especially for this issue (Sport University).
Azman
Thanks for detail explanation. You look to come up with points by numbering them.
But unfortunately, you try to run away from issue by blaming you partner- do not consistent.
As I mentioned earlier, all related to the list - points, given by you just now.
1. You don't know what are you going to talk (Objective. of discussion)
[ are we sports university ]
2. You are not fully recognize the current environment that support the issue.
[ situation now-all around talk about this like there are nothing more important ]
3. You don't have a concrete opinion.
[ I don't know which part I do that - please mention ]
4. Sometimes your statements are not related with previous statement in discussion.
[ a little funny, I should understand what do your mean ]
5. You just agree what are you think, without study the activities that has done before.
[ I don't mean to win my opinion- that why we call this is discussion ]
6. Actually you are opposite person, not discuss person. Very hard to me talk to person like you.
[ we are not supposed to justify a people as we like ]
At the end you blame the person, not the idea [ great idea ]. I consistently try to bring you to the issue and understand it.
But, you come up with idea of " communication, and now try to understand the methodology".
This is repetition as well. We don't go to the topic any more.
This look like you talk about yourself
Muhammad Abi
Honestly, I just advice to you as a friend.
BUT REMEMBER:
I will not recognized a person just win in talking, but win in their thinking that influence their action, especially in this discussion.
Sometimes we can give a lot of reason in any discussion, BUT, is it we are really practice on that?
SO, my advice as a friend, I hope you will practice my suggestion previously to attract anybody to discuss with you.
Regarding the issue of sport university, my advice you can refer to anybody who can give a clear picture in a context of sport in university, and;
NOT JUST give a reason based on our feeling.
MY personality, I don't know how to back up my opinions in this discussion. I just talk what actually happen this issue.
Azman
As we are agree, the discussion is to enrich and resolute our thinking, hence a good action can be taken.
Unnecessarily, action to be taken over night.
Discussion, historically began as earlier in Plato time and so on. It does not mean to win but to prevent the empire from destruction.
As we try to lighten our society by the culture of discussion, we should not frustrate. We are not supposed to.
About our feeling, I personally fail to notice any part of our discussion involving this criteria.
But, miserably, nowadays too many persons base their feeling in discussion...without confessing it.
This is a compilation of discussion which was warmly debated by two young Scholars, Muhammad Abi Suffian who has a Arts and Business educations and Azman a rising linguist in Arabic and its teaching. The issue arises here when; the University Mara Of Technology Terengganu organizes sports Days, the first event introduced on behalf of a new Director. The SUITE07 is opened to all staffs and students. But what makes this issue important is, the involving in this program is compulsory or not and how it was held technically. This is the friendly and sincerely discussion.
Muhammad Abi
It is compulsory to us?
OR, just relationship activity?
Azman
Yeah... anybody can use the reason of relationship.... but to what extent this workable...we are not in kindergarden..
sport is not nesseserally can built and strength relationship...but more damages are expected..since it only a small variable in our life...
Muhammad Abi
It's up to you as academician (thinker), if you think sport can develop relationship, it can give a positive way,
BUT if you think sport can demage relationship among us, may be you have your own opinion as a USTAZ!!!!!!!!
BUT why our government persuade the campaign "Badan Sihat Otak Cergas",
Azman
We have to look at the matter in various perspectives... to ensure the justice justification.
We do agree that "badan sihat otak cergas" not necessarily comes out from competition or match.
We define here sport in scope of match or competition not sport done freely.
Because the culture of competition to some circumstances lead to damage the message of "Badan sihat otak cergas" as well as nepotism culture.
Human being does not expected to compete in physical manner...to measure their strength...as our prophet s.a.w had asserted.
What sadden all of us is the culture has been tried to be created here is "worshiping sport" [ match ] by use excuse of " to maintain relationship and gain healthy" since there are sports man using drug to win the sport....
Muhammad Abi
Actually what do you want to going to discuss?
I hope you can clarify the objective of discussion.
Basically, you highlighted the UITMT as a sport university previously. AND UiTMT had already launch the sport for relationship activity.
UiTMT did not emphasize the competition, BUT Sport competition as a medium to develop the human relation in UiTM.
I hope you can think positively AND do not interpret based on your feeling but interpret based on your thinking.
Azman
We do not meant to justify the right or wrong particularly.
But the concern rise here is, as mention by you " objective of discussion" not to reveal self- unsatisfaction.
Deeply thinking, the noble university rule has stolen from this culture as seen in some perspectives.
We do not blindly interpret this situation, for the sake of ourselves. But as you said earlier, beside "Badan Sihat Otak Cergas",
we also believe " kepimpinan melalui tauladan" don't you ??!!.
If you said sport - in this campus for relationship- why it took 2 month to finish ??
I go back to what I mentioned before... we are on turning from University [ as understood worldwide ] to sport college.
So, do academician activities can be expected from this culture. Or it was pretty enough teaching and giving notes as academician activities ??.
And after all....lets go to party...
Muhammad Abi
Right now, our government going to centralized all the sports activity in IPTA and IPTS (Utusan Malaysia, 10/3/2007).
So, do the government implement the wrong thing? Sport as support activity among students and lecturer in university.
Actually, what the purpose of Unit Sukan under HEP?
OR, may you thing unit sukan as useless in IPTA?
What do can we relate between sport activity and the development of cognitive thinking, human behavior, and soft skill, etc among academician?
Is it related? OR You think the other way?
If, all of the activity is not related, I thing you should develop your own university.
AND invite all the academician work like you.
I don't think they are agree.
Azman
A good and reactive respond. As we related earlier, we are not going to justify the goodness of sport. As Islam itself encourages sports.
The sport unit existent is deniable. And we conscious there are another units. Sport Unit is not alone. Your statement "sport activity and the development of cognitive thinking, human behavior, and soft skill, etc among academician" is a repetition and interpretation of "Badan Sihat Otak Cergas". We don’t need to discuss it again.
If a small unit can conquer all university activities as well as the objective, doesn’t it is weird ??. The analogy is like a small and tiny snake trying to swallow a big cow.
The idea to create a new university is funny. Since it was our responsibilities to maintain and manage the existed university from misused or self interest. We can not simply brought by the wave and tide, but to actively and clearly defending the truth.
Muhammad Abi
Actually, what do you want going to discuss?
Sometime your statement is not have a core opinion, like a bird can fly anywhere.
O.Klah! If you want to discuss further, I think you can organize the conference which can discuss about this matter.
If you think the sport unit existent is deniable, what are the alternative that you can give to support the purpose of university in society?
So, sport unit can be denied means, all of the thinker (academician, government, etc) in the word are wrong thinking?
ONLY you are correct!!!!!!!!!!
Azman
As mentioned earlier, we are not going to simply say " wrong'" or "right".
And it is our task to find the betterment in our environment and society.
We already have a lot of units, including sport unit which believed can contribute to society.
But the core subject here is why a small unit conquer the activities, such as culture and arts, uniforms etc...??
We can accept the sport as a good activities for staff and students as you noted previously.
But why you don't wonder, how many emails during one months and more...all about this sports...tournament, match and so on.
We are like KEMAS kinder garden, after academic session go to field to play....see. We have about 4 months this semester. And 2 months for this activities...the rest is for classes and test.
Imagine !!! what a weird !!...I don't think all of the thinker (academician, government, etc) direct us to do like this. The matter now goes to the application not the idea.
We are agree in idea of sport as a mechanism to enrich, strengthen...relationships.
But technically...you can see.... and don't say am I only correct....
Muhammad Abi
O.klah if you understand what are the purpose of sport activity in UiTM.
BUT, the problem is, Why did you highlighted UiTM is a sport university, previously?
AND, what we can relate previous statement and the statement right now?
Sometimes, I don't know which one is your opinion?
Did the e-mail (Lotus note) always discuss the sport matters?
As I said before, lotus note can discuss just an ad hoc matters.
BUT if you want to discuss this matters better you conduct the conference.
It is a normally communication in lotus note to discuss ad hoc matters and management?
I don't know how are you discuss the academic matter through lotus note.
I think you have to understand the purpose of tools in communication, which one for ad hoc communication and which one for discussion.
Better you study the communication in human being.
Azman
Humbly to say, we are not going to discuss the matter on communications. It does not have any relation with the core topic.
Your mention " Better you study the communication in human being" is a good advice [ hopely a sincere one ] unless we are out of the topic.
What we try to clearly and sincerely understand is " if only sport will gain the relationship ... If we can count percentage of sport as a mechanicm..it was about 10% to 15 % can contribute..
This dogma will increase... and becomes a faith...what a nonsense...
Your Q "Did the e-mail (Lotus note) always discuss the sport matters?" that was what appeared during this month and before and maybe for the next month..
I can not answer your question [ or no need to ] pertaining the legislation or law of use L-Notes.
Your recommendation to organize such conference becomes funny to me. How you can expect human to use their mind to support this intellectual reflection if they were offered to go training and playing as well as winning tournament??
I don't sure whether intellectual discourse will be supported in this era of sportsmanship’s dream...
Muhammad Abi
So, it is clear that you understand which one is core topic. I hope you will not relate any encore suggestion next time.
My advice, you have to know what are you going to discuss.
Before we highlight something, we must understand;
1. Issue that we want to discuss
2. Issue and current environment
3. Problem in the issue
4. Analytical that we used.
5. Finding that can contribute to the problem in issue.
6. Good suggestion.
BUT THE PROBLEMS ARE;
1. You don't know what are you going to talk (Objective. of discussion)
2. You are not fully recognize the current environment that support the issue.
3. You don't have a concrete opinion.
4. Sometimes your statements are not related with previous statement in discussion.
5. You just agree what are you think, without study the activities that has done before.
6. Actually you are opposite person, not discuss person. Very hard to me talk to person like you.
I want ask to you, Why Faiz and Amri do not like to discuss wit you?
So, honestly to say, you must have a concrete opinion when you want to discuss further with me, especially for this issue (Sport University).
Azman
Thanks for detail explanation. You look to come up with points by numbering them.
But unfortunately, you try to run away from issue by blaming you partner- do not consistent.
As I mentioned earlier, all related to the list - points, given by you just now.
1. You don't know what are you going to talk (Objective. of discussion)
[ are we sports university ]
2. You are not fully recognize the current environment that support the issue.
[ situation now-all around talk about this like there are nothing more important ]
3. You don't have a concrete opinion.
[ I don't know which part I do that - please mention ]
4. Sometimes your statements are not related with previous statement in discussion.
[ a little funny, I should understand what do your mean ]
5. You just agree what are you think, without study the activities that has done before.
[ I don't mean to win my opinion- that why we call this is discussion ]
6. Actually you are opposite person, not discuss person. Very hard to me talk to person like you.
[ we are not supposed to justify a people as we like ]
At the end you blame the person, not the idea [ great idea ]. I consistently try to bring you to the issue and understand it.
But, you come up with idea of " communication, and now try to understand the methodology".
This is repetition as well. We don't go to the topic any more.
This look like you talk about yourself
Muhammad Abi
Honestly, I just advice to you as a friend.
BUT REMEMBER:
I will not recognized a person just win in talking, but win in their thinking that influence their action, especially in this discussion.
Sometimes we can give a lot of reason in any discussion, BUT, is it we are really practice on that?
SO, my advice as a friend, I hope you will practice my suggestion previously to attract anybody to discuss with you.
Regarding the issue of sport university, my advice you can refer to anybody who can give a clear picture in a context of sport in university, and;
NOT JUST give a reason based on our feeling.
MY personality, I don't know how to back up my opinions in this discussion. I just talk what actually happen this issue.
Azman
As we are agree, the discussion is to enrich and resolute our thinking, hence a good action can be taken.
Unnecessarily, action to be taken over night.
Discussion, historically began as earlier in Plato time and so on. It does not mean to win but to prevent the empire from destruction.
As we try to lighten our society by the culture of discussion, we should not frustrate. We are not supposed to.
About our feeling, I personally fail to notice any part of our discussion involving this criteria.
But, miserably, nowadays too many persons base their feeling in discussion...without confessing it.
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